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“Servants of Satan” vs. Servants of God – Ex-GreenTree, Conseco, Current & Past MHI Members Sound-Off on Clayton, MHI, POTUS Trump, Bush 41, More

December 5th, 2018 No comments

 

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The number of former Conseco, Greentree, and other now defunct industry lenders that are still working in manufactured housing (MH) is not insignificant.

 

Similarly, as MHI bleeds staffers and members on a periodic basis, past or current members and staff are among those who message or call MHProNews with feedback and insights.

Some calls are discussions. From my vantage-point near publisher and industry consultant L. A. ‘Tony’ Kovach’s office, this writer can often hear the vigorous back-and-forth with callers discussing current or looming manufactured housing industry issues.

Other calls are listening sessions.  Given the opportunity to candidly talk shop, people do.  It is not entirely clear why Tony listens more on some calls, but speaks more on others. Perhaps it is instinct? Experience? Whatever the case, he revels in calls from both those who agree and those who bring a different perspective.

Some callers make little or no mention of faith, while others wittingly or not lace their conversations or messages with references to God, and at times, to the devil.

What is occasionally heard or read, like the start of the headline above, you simply can’t make up.  It’s what the president of a company recently referred to as the fresh, authenticity of what he reads here on the Daily Business News on MHProNews.

It is no surprise that with the airwaves, digital, and social media awash in news about the passage of George H.W. Bush, the 41st President of the United States (POTUS), that MH Industry readers are thinking about him and his legacy too.

Some respected the man, his military and federal service, while others opposed specific Bush 41 policies.

 

MHI and Clayton Fans

There are calls and messages from self-proclaimed happy MHI members – or happy members of Team Clayton – who are among those messages and calls.

It is interesting to note that those pro-MHI or Clayton folks may not disagree with any specific points of Daily Business News on MHProNews reporting and analysis. But they nevertheless want to simply say that they are “happy” with the Arlington, VA based trade organization, or are “happy” with a Knoxville metro-based Clayton, 21st, or Vanderbilt, etc.

It is noteworthy that some of those “happy with” Arlington or Knoxville callers or messages then go on to specifically confirm items we’ve recently reported.

For example, yesterday’s report about quality issues at Clayton – with said report available by clicking the linked box, below – brought confirmations of sales lost to pending customers who had signed up to buy a Clayton manufactured home.  They have a significant fall out rate, we are told.  That fall out rate are prospective buyers who cancel their purchase after the initial paperwork was signed, or even after financing was approved. Again, ICYMI, you can read that report by clicking the linked box below.

 

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The social side of MHI is perhaps the part that most professionals like the most. Among the mentions are people who like Nathan Smith. Tony has said, he’s a very likable fellow.

One MHI member messaged to say that just because Nathan had supported Andy Barr’s opponent, that doing so didn’t make Nathan or MHI backstabbers.

A fairly common point from calls or messages is the fact that some professionals skim instead of read. A defender of former President Barack Obama, for example, admitted that they skimmed a report instead of reading it carefully.  That’s happed with those who don’t yet see the “smoking gun” of Clayton, MHI and monopolistic practices.

But upon careful inquiry, they are often those who have skimmed instead of carefully read Smoking Gun 3, may have missed it entirely, or haven’t viewed the full video with Kevin Clayton found on the in-depth report accessed by clicking on the hot-linked box below.

 

Machiavellian “Godfather” – Sam Zell, Warren Buffett, Capital, Lending and Crossed Lines in Manufactured Housing

 

While praising President Donald J. Trump publicly is often sadly frowned upon in some circles, the numbers who call or message to praise POTUS 45’s “genius” are numerous.

By contrast, the president’s detractors often are concerned about his style, tone, or tweets over substance.

When asked, POTUS Trump skeptics often grudgingly admit they have liked the results of several of the president’s policies.  That’s a start…

 

 

Updates on NMHCO, MHIdea?

As dues/membership renewal time for MHI is drawing near, the inquiries for more information about the emerging national communities group or MHIdea are growing too.

Change doesn’t come easily to many. They like being part of an association, even if the association is – in their own view – failing. Some are open to switching to a new group, but they naturally want to know what they are switching away from and into.

We expect, per a well-placed source, an update from NMHCO in the near term.

Perhaps the two most common words heard or read are “thank you.”

There is fatigue, frustration, or even anger expressed among those who see only “happy talk” or “more empty promises” from MHI or Berkshire brands.

Some genuinely believe that specific industry members are de facto servants of Satan.” It is interesting to note that they are often the same souls as those who think that President Trump will go down in history as one of the greatest American presidents of all time.

As newer or veteran MH professionals talk – sometimes with unease – about various trends they are seeing at communities, retail centers or ‘big boy’ factories, a common theme is the stated or implied need for real, positive change in manufactured housing. Their “thank you” theme is heartfelt, because they know that failure to act in new ways will only result in more of the same.

#HousingChoice. #YimbyVictory2020 or #2Trillion will only occur with positive effort, and that requires changes.

A special report is planned for later today or tomorrow, barring the unforeseen. That’s a quick and balanced look at some of the message bag and phoned in feedback from the field and ivory towers in MHVille. “We Provide, You Decide.” © ## (News, analysis, and commentary.)

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City tells Community Owner, Stop Lying – called a “Slumlord”

October 24th, 2016 Comments off
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Cleanup at Oak Hollow. Credit: San Antonio Current.

On the northwest side of San Antonio, a literally smelly controversy has been brewing.

According to multiple news sources, including the San Antonio Current, the owner of Oak Hollow Mobile Home Park has been served a cease and desist by the city.

The order tells him to stop lying to his “tenants.”

The story begins with complaints to the city of San Antonio by residents of the community regarding a strong sewage smell.

I’ve lived there four years, and then my sisters lived there for at least 15 years before that. It’s always smelled like this, I just never knew where it came from,” said one of the residents, who asked the Current to keep his identity anonymous for fear of retribution. “I mostly keep [my daughters] indoors now.

Upon investigation, the city found raw sewage leaking from decrepit septic tanks and directly into the park’s soil, including one leak directly underneath a tenant’s home. The resident was forced to avoid one of the rooms due to the smell.

The city determined that 12 of the homes were in such bad shape that the health department was legally bound to alert those living in Oak Hollow that they would need to move out of their home and into hotel rooms, paid for by the city, until the landlord addressed the problem.

What happened next was unexpected by some.

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Oak Hollow Community. Credit: San Antonio Express.

Joe Mangione, the owner of Oak Hollow, sent out a letter to residents with the following message, “The City of San Antonio has condemned the Mobile Home Park and will be giving out notices to vacate.”

According to city officials, they have done no such thing.

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Ron Nirenberg. Credit: San Antonio Express.

We have families that feel as if they are being uprooted by the city,” said Councilman Ron Nirenberg, whose district includes the Oak Hollow property.

Really, this is about a mobile home [sic] millionaire that has let property go into decay to the point that government has to force compliance.

According to Nirenberg, he contacted Mangione after hearing about the sewage leaks over two weeks ago. When Nirenberg and city staff demanded an explanation for the situation, Mangione offered an unexpected response.

He agreed his property was contaminated and uninhabitable – and that he’d sell it.

The property owner is using this opportunity to further his ultimate goal to sell the property, said Maria Cesar, communications director for Nirenberg’s office.

(Editor’s Note: as Richard Nodel’s comments below suggest, 
most MH Community owners do not operate in this fashion.
For an example of a different experience, click here.)

The Daily Business News has attempted to reach Mangione for comment, and has not received a response.

The Current reports that after reaching the staff at Oak Hollow, they were told that Mangione would not return calls until he got a lawyer.

According to Victoria Mather, a professor at St. Mary’s School of Law with a background in landlord and tenant law, the use of city intervention as an “easy out” isn’t unusual.

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Victoria Mather. Credit: St. Mary’s School of Law.

When it becomes too expensive for a landlord to fix a problem like this, they sell,” said Mather.

This used to be really common in the 60’s, especially with apartment buildings. But it still happens all over the country. 

Mather also told the Current that the only way residents could legally fight back is if Mangione broke a rental contract that promised maintenance upkeep or specific eviction rules. “You can’t force a landlord to stay in business,” said Mather.

Rumors, and the nationality of the tenants, provide an additional twist to this story.

We are not taking your home away from you and we are not going to take our eyes off this situation,” Nirenberg told a meeting of the residents.

Rumors were circulating that the city was going to evict all of the tenants and that they were being punished for reporting the sewage leaks. Nirenberg had to speak slowly enough for a staff member to translate.

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Sewage Line at Oak Hollow. Credit: KABB.

Many of the park’s residents are Hispanics, and only understand Spanish. Several claimed that the threat of being reported to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was a common threat used by Mangione to keep them quiet.

MH Industry Voices Sound Off on the Issue

Karl Radde, General Manager of Southern Comfort Homes and a long-time board member of the Texas Manufactured Housing Association, said, “My very basic initial take at this point is that it seems to be a situation where a city is wanting an owner to repair infrastructure and for reasons unknown from this [local news] article, the owner isn’t or hasn’t,” said Radde.

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Karl Radde, Southern Comfort Homes, Chairman, National Retailers Council, MHI. Radde’s complete thoughts on this issue are linked here.

However, as what is many times missing from these kinds of [local news] articles is the degree of failure and what the remedy would be,” Radde stated.

Certainly, like the Austin gardening plots conundrum, some things at first glance reading seem to be very good and simple ideas or solutions,” Radde, who has worked with manufactured home communties, said.  “In this case however, IF, the city is saying the repair is to dig up the old system, have hazmat crews remove the contaminated soil within three feet around the distressed area, pay exorbitant fees to have it disposed of at a recognized contaminated soil disposal site, and then install On-Site Sewage Facilities (TCEQ’s hundred-dollar word for septic system) that may not physically be possible in the space allowed; then they may as well be condemning it, just not going through the condemnation process.

An MH Community Owner with Texas Properties Views

I doubt that my reaction is different from anybody else reading this,” said Richard Nodel. “It is just another classic example of a slum landlord taking advantage of people that because of their position are either afraid to speak up or can’t afford to move.

Nodel also spoke to the perceptions that hurt the manufactured housing industry.

People on the bottom rung of our economic ladder in effect become hostages to the place they live, no matter how miserable it might be,” said Nodel.

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All of Richard Nodel’s observations on this issue are at this link here.

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It’s very easy to take advantage of people like this. We have several properties that are blue collar, family parks. We believe that they are entitled to the same safe, healthy environment as those residents in our fancy resort properties.

The Daily Business News will continue to follow this story, and will provide an update if Mangione and/or his attorney provide comments. ##

(Editor’s Note: as stated on the complete commentary from Karl Radde, linked here, were provided prior to additional information and sources on this developing story came to light. His qualified comments above still apply to this or similar situations.)

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